In our most meta podcast to date, Matt is joined by public radio journalist and author Celeste Headlee to discuss what it takes to become a great host.Some of you may recognize Celeste’s name from her work with a variety of publications including NPR, PBC, GPB, and PRI. In addition to her spoken work, Celeste is the author of two books, We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter, and Heard Mentality: An A-Z Guide on How to Take Your Podcast or Radio Show from Idea to Hit .Related: How to Keep Your Marketing Relevant Throughout 2019